Fort Hernandez In Van Nuys Might Be Losing Public Support For Potentially Using Children As Human Shields In Protest

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Is Fort Hernandez Protest Losing Public Support For Potentially Using Children As Human Shields?  

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October 18th, 2012

(Written by John Wright)  The Hernandez family said they first defaulted on their Countrywide home loan mortgage because they could not afford their payment after their interest rate was raised on them back in 2008. This unfortunately put the Hernandez family on a crash collision course with the Obama administration’s and the United States Treasury Department’s potentially irregular, fraudulent, illegal and simply abusive Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP). However, the Hernandez family is now facing imminent police eviction, after refusing to leave their three-bedroom home in Van Nuys, California. This is after they received a notice last August to vacate the premises. Since then the home has now been dubbed by the San Fernando Occupy movement as “Fort Hernandez,” in which there are hundreds of supporters that have now set up camp in front the Hernandez home.  The Hernandez family said they will not leave.  This because they stated that they have been trying to get a loan modification even before their house was sold at auction, however, the bank simply will not work with them.

 Bank of America responded to a local news station with the following statement:

Our last modification review prior to foreclosure for Mr. Hernandez was from February 2011 through August 2011. During that time, we made multiple requests for documentation but Mr. Hernandez never submitted the necessary documentation for us to complete the review. Unfortunately, we had no choice but to proceed with foreclosure.

Recently, we wanted to provide Mr. Hernandez an opportunity to retain his home. Mr. Hernandez and other non-borrowers submitted documentation. We reviewed those documents and unfortunately, could not qualify him for a modification.” 

The Home Affordable Modification Program was a federal program that FORCED BANK OF AMERICA and other servicers to offer HAMP to six million homeowners.  This is even before Bank of America and the others were set up to accommodate such a stupid program.  That is why it can be said that Timothy Geithner of The United States Treasury Department basically put the Titanic (Bank of America) (built not to sink) and the other servicers on a crash collision course with an iceberg (the homeowners) with this stupid federal government program.  It would not be revealed until four years later that the United States Treasury Department was actually seeing homeowners as “foam on the runway” and not an “iceberg” though.  This is because former United States Treasury Department Inspector General Neil Barofsky said in his book “Bailout” that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (aka troll) said that the program was actually created to make homeowners “foam on the runway” for the banks to have a soft landing. -  Neil Barofsky interview  That is why some have renamed it “HAMP DAM” — because much in the same way a dam controls how much water that comes out of the lake – HAMP DAM was built to control the amount of foreclosures coming out of the lake.   That is why in the end it could be said that HAMP would prove once and for all that Ronald Reagan was right when he delivered the following speech.

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Many have said that the Hernandez family home has become symbolic of a home foreclosure protest by The Occupy San Fernando Valley Movement in Los Angeles.  This is because soon after they arrived the neighborhood would be flooded with 20 to 70 supporters that camp out in front of the Hernandez home.  Across the street hangs a bannerthat declares the home as “Fort Hernandez”.  There are also couches that were spray-painted with popular slogans of the movement in front of the Hernandez house.  There are many neighbors who report that they can hear the voice of Bob Marley singing behind the plywood barricade that is painted with the slogan “Housing is a right”.

 

 

Unfortunately, there have been some complaints coming into the Los Angeles police department from the surrounding neighbors and the neighborhood garbage man about the protest.  This is why the Los Angeles police department would get involved somewhere around September 20, 2012.  It was during this time the Occupy Movement complained that the Los Angeles police department apparently showed up with seven police cars and ten police officers — while describing the Los Angeles police department as being a negligent use of city resources.    This would eventually inspire Ulises Hernandez to write a letter of complaint to the Los Angeles police department.

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Now I have obviously proven over the past four years that I am usually on the homeowner’s side in these kinds of issues with the bank.  However, with that being said, I do not think anyone should be surprised that the police department should show up when there are crowds of people from an Occupy Movement gathering in small little neighborhood.  This is because we must understand that the neighbors have rights too.  It is also important for me to mention that the youtubes I viewed only showed the police officers remaining calm doing their job.  This is even though there seemed to be some in the Occupy Movement that were trying to provoke the police officers in words and actions.  Personally – I have never really understood why any person armed with a camera would want to provoke a policeman who is armed with a gun.  Nevertheless, at one point one of the people walked right up to a policeman’s face with a camera when the policeman was taking pictures of the structure.  This might have clearly made the policeman feel unsafe knowing that an emotionally charged protester was now arm’s length away from grabbing his gun.   That is why I am sure that it would be actions like this that should suggest why nobody should be surprised that the Los Angeles police department would respond with more than one police officer in these kinds of situations.  

Listen —  I want to say for the record that I understand that I have a responsibility as the media to make sure that the police are not abusing my brothers and sisters.  However, I also have a responsibility to make sure that I send the message that nobody in a protest should do anything that should provoke the police officers into any unnecessary conflict.  That is because I don’t want anyone to get hurt here.  That is why I want everyone to understand that the police are only doing their jobs in this situation.  They are not the enemy.  We actually want to act in a way that would gain their support by treating them with total respect.  This way they do not see us as the enemy.

On October 4th tensions seem to further build up between the Los Angeles police department and Fort Hernandez when the police came in the early morning hours to remove the couch and the signs out in front of the house.  Mr. Hernandez actually filmed the event.

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Now you know why everybody you see in those mug shots on the news usually has crazy messed up hair after a raid. This is basically because the police department usually does these things early in the morning while a person is sleeping.  So  ladies!  Make sure your hair always looks good before you go to sleep!  It makes for a great mug shot!  With that being said, I thought the Hernandez family conducted themselves in a calm and respectful manner in this example in the youtube above. That is why I give this reaction thumbs up for Fort Hernandez!  The unfortunate thing is that I have heard from several of my very big media contacts that Fort Hernandez might be losing support from the public and the media.  This is because there is an allegation that they are potentially using children as human shields to avoid a foreclosure.  That is why I have sent the following person in this youtube to mediate with Mr. Hernandez.  This is in hopes Mr. Hernandez will remove any children from the house during the protest.

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My brother — please remove the children from the home until this is over. This is because history has shown us that this can be a clearly dangerous situation when things do not go as planned with a police raid.   – CNN coverage of Waco 

The Hernandez family said they will fight back since the bank refused to negotiate with them. This is even though there might be evidence to show that Bank of America is trying to negotiate with them.  This is because it was reported to me that Bank of America showed a spirit of cooperation by giving Martin Andelman from the Mandelman Matters blog permission to negotiate the possibility of a loan modification.  Then Mr. Hernandez refused to give the paperwork to Martin that was required to facilitate the modification request.   That is why only time will tell if Fort Hernandez is really protesting to get a loan modification. That is because –Unfortunately — until they give Bank of America and Martin Andelman the paperwork it might be said that they are protesting to just get a free house. This would make all of us fighting to save our homes look bad.  This is because they seem to be just basing it all on housing is a right.  
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This is why it looks like time might be running out for Fort Hernandez.  It is also why I have sent the person in this youtube below to try and influence Mr. Hernandez to work with Martin Andelman and Bank of America to get the loan modification he is looking for.   
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In the end – Mr. Hernandez might be correct that housing is a right.  Unfortunately, there might not be too many people that will agree with picking which house you live in is a right. 

That is why you want to always remember to keep your eyes on the Stars!  But keep your feet firmly on the ground

Guest708 (guest): LOVED your most recent article about the Hernandez’s!  They’ve NEVER had the support of their neighbors.

Piggybankblogger Renoria reponds to today’s blog:   John, Using their children as human shields?  That might be taking a bit of literary license.  I mean it sounds like the police have come in with their guns drawn and the family is holding the little ones in front of them.

That isn’t exactly what the article states, however. You have indicated that you feel they need to get their children out of the “potential” harms way.

Following is a quote from PennyMac’s recent corporate meeting: “While it is difficult to forecast with certainty how long the distressed home loan opportunity will last, we expect strong close to continue for the next 12 months and probably longer. Our estimates envision a population of approximately 15 billion to 20 billion in distressed home loans that have already been identified by marked participants is likely to come up for sale.”

This is from the following site: http://seekingalpha.com/article/858301-pennymac-mortgage-investment-trust-s-ceo-presents-at-barclays-capital-global-financial-services-conference-transcript?page=5

Given that they anticipate 15-20 billion distressed home loans to be on the market next year, I think it is safe to say that families are not the ones putting their children in harms way. And where are they to go?

Let’s look at the practicality of what you are suggesting. In order for them to remove the children from the home, they have to have another place for them to stay, go to school, eat, etc. Which means they would either have to rent another place, which I do not believe they are in the position to do, or they would have to impose on a relative, which may not be feasible.

The children would then be displaced and not with their parents for an indeterminable amount of time. This would be traumatic for the children. My grandchildren cannot be without my daughter for more than a few hours at a time before they begin to get nervous and whiny, especially in a situation of unrest.

When the Nazi soldiers (just doing their job) came and removed the Jewish families from their homes, the children were included. It was not the families putting their children in harms way.

When we watch those movies depicting the cruelty of that era we are outraged. Yet, today as we watched millions of families being robbed of their homes…are we just as outraged?

I don’t know the full story about the Hernandez family, but I know from being in this situation ourselves. WE are not putting our children in harm’s way.

We are not Deadbeats….

elainegalindo.com

John Wright Responds to Renoria: I am sorry but we must agree to disagree.  This is because even though Saddam Hussein (Not a reference being made to Mr. Hernandez personally) had no guns out when he had surrounded himself with children.  It was not right for him to surround himself with children in a “potential effort” to try and stop the United States from using force while coming into Iraq.  For the record, there was also no evidence in the video with Saddam Hussein that this was a tactic either.  It was just obvious.  It was also wrong.  That is especially since we knew that it was not going to stop the United States from coming in with force.  Neither are the children being there going to stop this situation at some point.  This is because everyone knows the police are going to eventually charge in with guns if they keep resisting.  It is basically protocol in situations like this.  You can already see it starting since FORTY POLICE OFFICERS entered the house at 5am just to remove couches and other protest items.  This means the adults have a responsibility to take the children out of the situation when they have the knowledge of this coming. Anything else would be irresponsible.  This is because the adults have a choice to be there or not.  But the children do not.  Neither should the children have that choice.  This is because — well – they are children.

Additionally, I am never going to buy into anyone saying that there is nowhere for the children to go during this.  That is a terrible excuse and justification for why it is okay for the children to remain in a dangerous situation.  They seem to be very resourceful people with a lot of support.   This implies there is a place for the children to go.  That is why there is absolutely no excuse to put children in danger based on that argument.  That is ridiculous.  For example, would you feel that way if something went wrong and one of the children were hurt on accident?  Of course you would not.  You will say they should have removed the children from the house during this time, right?

The point is – there is a correct way to protest and there is an incorrect way to protest. This means that there is not justification for whatever action a person does based simply on the fact that the banks screwed them over.  Not every action is justified.  Not every person has the same circumstances as you and me.  That is why there is simply no justification for allowing children to be in a situation where we know it is very likely that there are going to be guns out when they have to evict them because of all the emotional people there.  That is why people might not see what their protest is really about.  This is because they might be more focused on the safety of the children.

For you to say anything different would be you saying you are okay with this maybe happening: 

Click here for news Youtube of event

You said: “I mean it sounds like the police have come in with their guns drawn and the family is holding the little ones in front of them.”

It is not okay.

Do you understand that if there was one wrong move — some kid could have lost his life in this picture?  That is why, unfortunately, I cannot even think of supporting this until the children are removed from this clearly dangerous situation.  Even the Jews in Germany hid their children in safety.  They would have never chose to have their children stand there with them while knowing the Nazi army was coming if they could hide them.  That is why this argument is far reaching.

It is also why I think people should keep their eyes on the stars but their feet firmly on the ground with all this.

 This is because two wrongs will never make it right.

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Song lyrics:

I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down.
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There are battle lines being drawn.
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong.
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Update: Lt. Jim Gavin of The Los Angeles Police Department!  His Cheese Might Have Done Slid Off It’s Cracker At Fort Hernandez Protest!
Update:  October 29th, 2012 Wall Around “Fort Hernandez” Occupy Protest Taken Down
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4 Comments

  1. Renoira says:

    John,
    Using their children as human shields? That might be taking a bit of literary license. I mean it sounds like the police have come in with their guns drawn and the family is holding the little ones in front of them.

    That isn’t exactly what the article states, however. You have indicated that you feel they need to get their children out of the “potential” harms way.

    Following is a quote from PennyMac’s recent corporate meeting: “While it is difficult to forecast with certainty how long the distressed home loan opportunity will last, we expect strong close to continue for the next 12 months and probably longer. Our estimates envision a population of approximately 15 billion to 20 billion in distressed home loans that have already been identified by marked participants is likely to come up for sale.”

    This is from the following site: http://seekingalpha.com/article/858301-pennymac-mortgage-investment-trust-s-ceo-presents-at-barclays-capital-global-financial-services-conference-transcript?page=5

    Given that they anticipate 15-20 billion distressed home loans to be on the market next year, I think it is safe to say that families are not the ones putting their children in harms way. And where are they to go?

    Let’s look at the practicality of what you are suggesting. In order for them to remove the children from the home, they have to have another place for them to stay, go to school, eat, etc. Which means they would either have to rent another place, which I do not believe they are in the position to do, or they would have to impose on a relative, which may not be feasible.

    The children would then be displaced and not with their parents for an indeterminable amount of time. This would be traumatic for the children. My grandchildren cannot be without my daughter for more than a few hours at a time before they begin to get nervous and whiny, especially in a situation of unrest.

    When the Nazi soldiers (just doing their job) came and removed the Jewish families from their homes, the children were included. It was not the families putting their children in harms way.

    When we watch those movies depicting the cruelty of that era we are outraged. Yet, today as we watched millions of families being robbed of their homes…are we just as outraged?

    I don’t know the full story about the Hernandez family, but I know from being in this situation ourselves. WE are not putting our children in harm’s way.

    We are not Deadbeats….

    elainegalindo.com

    • Piggybankblog says:

      Hi Renoria.
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      I posted your comment as part of the blog and responded.
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      Thank you for taking the time to share your feelings about Fort Hernandez.
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      Your friend,
      John Wright
      Piggybankblog.com

  2. Renoira says:

    John,
    Using their children as human shields? That might be taking a bit of literary license. I mean it sounds like the police have come in with their guns drawn and the family is holding the little ones in front of them.

    That isn’t exactly what the article states, however. You have indicated that you feel they need to get their children out of the “potential” harms way.

    Following is a quote from PennyMac’s recent corporate meeting: “While it is difficult to forecast with certainty how long the distressed home loan opportunity will last, we expect strong close to continue for the next 12 months and probably longer. Our estimates envision a population of approximately 15 billion to 20 billion in distressed home loans that have already been identified by marked participants is likely to come up for sale.”

    This is from the following site: http://seekingalpha.com/article/858301-pennymac-mortgage-investment-trust-s-ceo-presents-at-barclays-capital-global-financial-services-conference-transcript?page=5

    Given that they anticipate 15-20 billion distressed home loans to be on the market next year, I think it is safe to say that families are not the ones putting their children in harms way. And where are they to go?

    Let’s look at the practicality of what you are suggesting. In order for them to remove the children from the home, they have to have another place for them to stay, go to school, eat, etc. Which means they would either have to rent another place, which I do not believe they are in the position to do, or they would have to impose on a relative, which may not be feasible.

    The children would then be displaced and not with their parents for an indeterminable amount of time. This would be traumatic for the children. My grandchildren cannot be without my daughter for more than a few hours at a time before they begin to get nervous and whiny, especially in a situation of unrest.

    When the Nazi soldiers (just doing their job) came and removed the Jewish families from their homes, the children were included. It was not the families putting their children in harms way.

    When we watch those movies depicting the cruelty of that era we are outraged. Yet, today as we watched millions of families being robbed of their homes…are we just as outraged?

    I don’t know the full story about the Hernandez family, but I know from being in this situation ourselves. WE are not putting our children in harm’s way.

    We are not Deadbeats….

    elainegalindo.com

    • Piggybankblog says:

      Hi Renoria.
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      I posted your comment as part of the blog and responded.
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      Thank you for taking the time to share your feelings about Fort Hernandez.
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      Your friend,
      John Wright
      Piggybankblog.com

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